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Originally Posted by Ohio
OBW, methinks you have taken your rejection of Lee and Nee way too far, to the point that you reject scripture just because they taught from it. The Lord Jesus, who was God Himself, come in the flesh, was a pattern for us. Did He not often minister to the Father in prayer? Yes He came to serve, and He did so incessantly for the span of 3+ years, but the gospel writers record numerous times when He isolated Himself for prayer.
Prayer is not just a series of requests we mail off to heaven when things go awry. It is also a ministry, a fellowship, a living conversation between us and God. It becomes the source for all real spiritual vitality and service. Take away this ministry to the Lord and we are left with nothing of lasting value.
Wise would be heeding the admonition to "Talk less, Pray more."
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There is no quarrel with your statements. The quarrel has been with some assertion that there is a "first" and "second" ministry set forth in Ezekiel 44. We have been given a grand tour of other verses talking about other things. My response to them is not that they are not true in themselves for the things they say, but they do not speak to the meaning of Ezekiel 44.
Barber (or whoever) read Ezekiel 44 and encouraged Nee to do the same and they came away with this "important" understanding of how there is a "first" and "second" ministry.
So ZNP has been running all over scripture talking about all kinds of things. But none of them cast even a shadow onto Ezekiel 44 to give it meaning that was not already there. And an ordering of worship was not there. There were roles assigned. Not chosen, but assigned.
You and he have been mistaken as to my complaint. It is not about Mary and what she did. It is about how it is evidence that Ezekiel 44 is about an order of service.