03-13-2013, 09:31 AM
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Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ θεὸς τὸν κόσμον For God So Loved The World
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Re: Nee's 'Ministry to the House or to the Lord'
I don't think Mike is rejecting scripture per se, but rather he is rejecting Nee and Lee's interpretation of something illustrated within scripture. (he can correct me if I'm wrong)
I don't think Lord Jesus was "ministering to the Father" in prayer, rather He was praying to seek the Father's will for himself and to those whom the Father "gave him". Furthermore, when the Lord Jesus gave the disciples instruction on how to pray, it was more along the lines of worshiping and seeking that his "will be done on earth as it is in heaven."
This all goes to what I believe is a foundational and fundamental error in the teachings of Watchman Nee and Witness Lee - that God somehow and in some sense NEEDS man. Witness Lee went even so far as to intimate (many times implicitly and sometimes explicitly) that man somehow completes God or fulfills God in his person and his purpose. Where Nee got this kind of concept from is not very clear to me, all I know is that he did not get it from the Bible. As far as Lee....well many of us know full well that he had a great tendency to make things up out of whole cloth.
I'm reminded of that song we sang back in the 70s -
O I’m a man—
I’m the meaning of the universe;
Yes, I’m a man—
I’m the meaning of the universe.
God made me such,
I am so much;
I’m the center and the meaning of the universe.
Source: http://www.hymnal.net/hymn.php/h/1293#ixzz2NR8Gr47y
No other song that I'm aware of illustrates as well this foundational and fundamental error in Nee/Lee. Yes, yes, YES, you will find that Nee and Lee taught that God was the center and meaning of the universe....but the fact that they did does not even begin to mitigate, much less cancel out, such a grievous error in teaching, which no doubt spilled over into our practice in the LC movement as well.
The bottom line is that God does not need to be ministered to by us (at least not in the sense that is being discussed in this thread), in fact to hold and teach such a concept can be rather damaging, especially to a new and/or young believer. The Lord Jesus clearly told us (directly and through many of the parables) that the way to "minister" to him is to be a servant and minister to each other (the body of Christ) and even to our fellow man. Watchman Nee did in fact give this a passing mention within his booklet, however this seems to get overwhelmed and even drowned out by the rest of his impractical, hyper-spiritualistic dogma.
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αὐτῷ ἡ δόξα καὶ τὸ κράτος εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων ἀμήν - 1 Peter 5:11
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