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Originally Posted by UntoHim
Steve I felt the same way after reviewing this post. What is the title of the piece and have you posted it in it's entirety? If it is available online could you please point us to where it is posted?
Most importantly, I really don't think it's very profitable for you to post such a large amount of material with little or no comment from yourself. Your comment is extremely vague and doesn't really tell us what "discrepancy" you are talking about. When you get a chance could you fill in some of the blanks for us? Thanks
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UntoHim, I think Steve may had wanted the rest of us forum participants to say something before he made his point on the revelvance of this Watchman Nee booklet to the forum's discussion?
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We all know that the first occasion when sweat is mentioned was when Adam was driven from the Garden of Eden. After Adam sinned, God pronounced this sentence upon him: "Cursed is the ground for thy sake; in toil shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life...in the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread" (Genesis 3:19-19). It is clear that sweat is a condition of the curse. Because the curse rested on the ground, it ceased to yield its fruit without man's effort, and such effort produced sweat.
When the blessing of God is withheld, fleshly effort becomes necessary, and that causes sweat. All work that produces sweat is positively prohibited to those who minister to the Lord. Yet today what an expenditure of energy there is in work for Him! Few Christians can do any work today without sweating over it. Their work involves planning and scheming, exhorting and urging, and very much running around. It cannot be done without a great deal of fleshly zeal.
Nowadays, if there is no sweat there is no work. Before work for God can be undertaken, there is a great deal of rushing to and fro, making numerous contacts, having consultations and discussions, and finally getting the approval of various people before going ahead. As for waiting quietly in the presence of God and seeking His instructions, that is out of the question."
What does the preceeding quote remind you of? Reminds me how the New Way, PSRP, etc was characterized as.... work of the flesh.
What blessing had previously existed from the Jesus movement was gone. "A New Cart" had to be implented to try to manufacture what had previously brought many Christians to the local churches. History is available. The New Way through all the effort and all the labor of the brothers and sisters who participated was for naught.
Also reminds me of a message the late Art Katz gave. (By the way many of his messages I found at sermonindex.net). Basically saying Christian culture has become too fast-paced. Always in a hurry. There's no waiting. I think some of us can say the same thing in our experiences in the local churches. There's no waiting for the Lord. If there's a gap between testimonies/prophesying, the gap must be filled. In prophesying time, gaps are often likened to deadness. Now I look forward to the pastor/leading brother at my church calling for a moment of silence. If not for anything, to take care of our heart before proceeding with the Lord's Table.