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Originally Posted by aron
TJ,
"Nothing can separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus." Nothing. No group, no teaching, no practice. Eventually God wins. Never give up, never get discouraged, never doubt. God will win. Just be patient, and hold fast to your faith until the end. God will win. Through your faith, your family member remains "safe in the
Arms of Jesus."
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Hey Aron,
A few years ago, a friend of mine sadly took his own life after feeling there was no way out of the pit he dug for himself. It was devasting of course. But you know what the Holy Spirit told his sister and what she & the family put as an epitah on his tombstone?
"Safe in the Arms of the Lord". 
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Second, is the verse "Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world." I consider the whole schema of the Nee/Lee/Local Church system to be of the world, and in the world. Their incessant merchandising, and their total disregard for the poor, among other practices, made this clear to me. Eventually the One who is greater, the One whose Spirit abides in your family member's human heart, will win. So your guarantee is in the Word of God, and your stubborn faith which holds to and declares to this Word firmly until the end.
I tried debating with some Local Churchers, once. There were several of them, and one of me. They presented me with huge extracts of quotes from Witness Lee and Watchman Nee. Paragraph after paragraph of writings were quoted verbatim. I said, "Well, what do you think? Can you explain this to me in your own words?" No; they just wanted to quote Nee and Lee. They didn't want to think, to question, to examine.
When I persisted in my probing of the Nee/Lee analysis, trying to show there were other ways to approach the Word of God than the logic of these 2 men, one of the Local Churchers began to say that my heart was "dark" and I was "rebellious" because I had "ambition" which had been thwarted (I am a former member of the group).
So reasoning is usually a dead end. Have you ever tried to reason with a Mormon? They just keep repeating the mantras they've been handed. Any deviation from their 'group norm' makes them uncomfortable, and they avoid it at all costs. An integral part of their teaching is 'don't question the teaching.'
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I began to chuckle as I read your debate w/the LCrs as I thought of my encounter with the Mormons!!! Then you compared their repeating mantras to the LCrs mantras and defense of Lee/Nee!! That is exactly how it is!!!! Last summer as I listened to the Mormons give me their schpeel, they kept telling me over and over how God, I mean god spoke to Joseph Smith. From that point on, it was all about Joseph Smith being "
the prophet".
As they went on and on about Joseph Smith, I was sooo reminded of the LCrs adulation of Brother Lee.
They did not rattle me in the least. They saw how much I truly loved the Word. I did not merely quote scriptures to them. But I did politely and lovingly kept reminding them JESUS IS GOD by pointing them to the scriptures.
They do not believe Jesus IS God. They only believe He is the Son of God and Lucifer's brother. How SAD!!!! When we were done, we prayed together and I asked the Lord to bless them. I gave them some bottled water to take with them on their way.
Several years ago, I never would have sat down with them!
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So it is a stubborn virus that you are dealing with here. It is resistant to many of the basic cures. But, greater is God than any worldly virus. God can raise the dead, and He can surely turn within the human heart. Just hold fast to the Word of Truth, and God will have His way. "Thy will be done, Father God." Tell yourself that you will never let go, not of God nor your family member, and God will have a way.
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I loved this post of yours Aron !!!!
May I add yet another scripture?
Psalm 144:15 "Happy is that people whose GOD is the Lord".
People need to see the Joy and the Peace of the Lord in us.
Don't misunderstand. I know all too well, there are times we are not so 'happy'. But I think everyone of us former LCr here know that as long as we stay connected to our God, He is not going to leave us 'unhappy'. He truly does turn our mourning into dancing.
Blessings!
Carol Garza