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Cal · 02-20-2013, 11:50 AM

Ohio, from my reading Tomes is saying that the correct rendering of Romans 8:6 does not directly lend support to the idea of "setting the mind on the Spirit." Rather, the verse supports the idea that the general mentality of someone controlled by the Spirit is one full of life and peace. So the emphasis is on the result, rather than on how to get there. LSM's emphasis is on the how ("setting").

Honestly, I've always been a little confused about "setting," so to hear it is not actually in the original is not entirely a shock to me. Somehow "walk in the Spirit" or "mind stayed on Thee" make sense, but "setting the mind on the Spirit" has always seemed a bit contrived. Now I know why.

I think what Tomes is saying is this is a case where LSM (Lee) injected their interpretation into the language under the guise of producing a very literal translation. But a very literal translation would not contain a verb, except perhaps the bracketed or italicized "is" indicating the word is not in the original, like the NKJV ("For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.")

Of course, the other shoe dropping is the question of just how one becomes someone with the mind of the Spirit. If pray-reading, calling on the Lord and even PSRPing "the Ministry" can help, then well....

But in his final sentence Tomes does not rule out that something like setting can be supported by Scripture, just that Romans 8:6 isn't the support.

02-20-2013, 11:50 AM	#4
Cal Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 4,333	Re: Setting the Mind on the Spirit - The Vanishing Verb Ohio, from my reading Tomes is saying that the correct rendering of Romans 8:6 does not directly lend support to the idea of "setting the mind on the Spirit." Rather, the verse supports the idea that the general mentality of someone controlled by the Spirit is one full of life and peace. So the emphasis is on the result, rather than on how to get there. LSM's emphasis is on the how ("setting"). Honestly, I've always been a little confused about "setting," so to hear it is not actually in the original is not entirely a shock to me. Somehow "walk in the Spirit" or "mind stayed on Thee" make sense, but "setting the mind on the Spirit" has always seemed a bit contrived. Now I know why. I think what Tomes is saying is this is a case where LSM (Lee) injected their interpretation into the language under the guise of producing a very literal translation. But a very literal translation would not contain a verb, except perhaps the bracketed or italicized "is" indicating the word is not in the original, like the NKJV ("For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.") Of course, the other shoe dropping is the question of just how one becomes someone with the mind of the Spirit. If pray-reading, calling on the Lord and even PSRPing "the Ministry" can help, then well.... But in his final sentence Tomes does not rule out that something like setting can be supported by Scripture, just that Romans 8:6 isn't the support.