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Originally Posted by countmeworthy
Hello Indie..please give my warmest regards to Angelica for me if she does not make another appearance here.
I do not understand how one person's personal positive insight on a book or YouTube turned into a heated debate.
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Thank you for referring me to this. I enjoyed watching the video and am half way through the book. I enjoy his insights into Isaiah 9:10. I find it very relevant since this verse has been quoted repeatedly at the most significant of moments regarding 9/11.
One year prior to 9/11 our church organized a rally in front of the UN to raise awareness for what was going on in Sudan. I was one of the three committee members that organized that rally. We had a picture of a boy who was burned by the terrorists and we had a small coffin for a child. The rally was a memorial service. You might have seen the movie about the preacher who shoots guns, or something like that (Machine gun preacher?). This man was also at this rally.
The point that our pastor made at that rally was that if we don't respond to the terrorists attacking Christians in Sudan, then we will one day have to respond to them here in this country.
One year later we had planned to have a second rally on 9/13 but it was cancelled after 9/11. On 9/11 I had to walk out of Manhattan and as I crossed the bridge and looked back a huge pillar of smoke was rising from where the Twin towers were. I felt like I was right out of CNN footage from some war torn region. I also felt that our rally (these things cost us around $20,000) was like a big burnt offering to the Lord. We had laid out the offering, prayed, and God had answered from heaven with fire. (We had prayed to raise awareness so that we could take action. We didn't pray for the attack, but I knew this would raise awareness).
Now because of my study on what was happening in Sudan I knew that Iraq and Al Qaida were two very different entities. I also knew that justifying an attack on Iraq because of human rights abuses was complete hypocrisy since the two biggest abusers by Amnesty international's account were our two allies: Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. So I knew the US was responding with defiance.
One other interesting side note, I met one of the hijackers. He came into our firm to open an account with us. I was the one who opened the account. When I went into the back office to get the manager to sign off I told my manager that I had major misgivings about this guy. He was sitting with 3 other coworkers. I think my actual words were "this guy is a terrorist". However, I had no evidence other than my gut. I would have certainly gotten a bad write up about this event had it not been for 9/11. That was when we learned that he in fact was one of the terrorists. The FBI directed us to send the file to them.
So this story has been something that I have followed closely from day 1 and I do appreciate the added Biblical references. I am most impressed that St. Paul's was where the new nation was consecrated (I knew that Washington had gone there after the inauguration because a plaque outside the church explains that) and uprooting the sycamore at St. Paul's at the time that the towers fell has so much more meaning.
I guess there are three ways someone can respond:
You could scoff -- US is not a Christian country, these events are not harbingers of God's judgment, etc.
You could repent --
Or you could do nothing and just hopes it all goes away. Too afraid to scoff lest you incur God's judgment, too drugged to repent.