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Old 12-23-2012, 06:53 PM   #28
TLFisher
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Default Re: The Heavenly Ideal in Need of Heavylifting

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Originally Posted by Indiana View Post
"Focusing entirely on the heavenly [ideal]...just produced a group where needs get marginalized."
What I read into this quote is the needs of the system outweigh the needs of the individual.
Since there is no effort to shepherd the needs of the individual, it seems to be implied the individual should know. If you don't know then it beomes a matter of seeking God's mercy His wisdom will be manifested.
Hearing a recent LSM conference, ministries the minister to the individual needs are marginalized or belittled as "helping the self". Really!
You can have a book exhorting brothers how shepherd their families and that is marginalized as not being in line with the "New Testament ministry". Why not? This is what Paul spoke in his epistles to Ephesus and Colosse.
What about spouses that need help? The wife wants more time with her husband. You now how it is. The meetings take predence over the marriage. "If you take care of the ministry, the ministry will take care of your marriage." All the whle the sister-wife feels taken for granted because the various meetings, felowships, conferences, etc come first before the household. The catch 22 is if a brother places priority of his household administration over that of attending various meetings, conferences, etc he becomes known as being a marginal brother.
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