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Originally Posted by OBW
Jesus did not say ...
Paul set out to deal with some claiming there is no resurrection...
You may not like it, but to me, the level to which the search for details not provided is in the "it doesn't matter" category.
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Do you read the posts? The details were provided by Jesus and Paul.
1. Jesus told the thief "this day you will be with Me in paradise". That is one detail.
2. Paul said that when he died "he would be with Christ". That is another detail.
3. Paul said that "the dead in Christ rise first". That is a third detail.
Of course there are more. Jesus talked about Lazarus being in the bosom of Abraham, and a gulf that separates the two parts of Hades. Peter talks about different realms in Hades as well, mentioning Tartarus where the fallen angels are held. Then of course you can talk about the False Prophet and Anti Christ who both "went to their place until the appointed time". There is also the very thorny question of Elijah and Moses. Where did they go. If John the Baptist was Elijah who is to come, what does that mean?
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Originally Posted by OBW
Martin Luther did not need to know where we go when we die ...
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Then how does he know we don't go to purgatory? How does he know we shouldn't pay the indulgences?