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Old 10-02-2012, 04:48 PM   #230
Peter Debelak
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Default Re: Should Members Obey or Submit to Church Leaders?

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post

Therefore, if you look at the meeting of 3 believers and see them submitting one to another you will see this same submission manifested in larger gatherings.

But then of course Jesus said "wherever two or three gather together in my name there am I in the midst". So why not define the church as a group of Christians assembling in the name of Christ where Jesus is in their midst?
ZNP:

That's a large part of what I'm arguing. I am NOT arguing that large "organized" churches are "wrong". I am arguing

1) that WHENEVER Christians get together that is "the church" even though it might not be "organized," and

2) That an emphasis on individual walk with the Lord and learning to hear the Spirit's voice is preferable to a focus on "group" - just as a matter of emphasis - since a healthy individual walk WILL result in a corporate experience while a focus on "the group" may or may not result in healthy individual walk; and

3) the simple gathering of believers for mutual edification is often usurped when the group gains its own "agengy" to pursue "Agendas" or "ministry" - which sould perhaps be more God-to-individual driven, even though there might be resultant cooperation.

Make any sense?

Peter
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