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Originally Posted by Plenteous
Awareness, no one in my family has ever lived in Detroit. So, your assertion that you knew my father "from the time he came into the LC in the church in Detroit" is nonsense, and casts doubt on all your other recollections.
Second, even if events occurred as you describe, a person's assertion that you "poisoned a couple" is not an "outright lie;" it is a subjective characterization.
Your attitude is disgusting--calling my father a "chump" and saying that he "deserves his name to be dragged out in public." You may disagree with his views regarding Witness Lee, but my father is a quiet man and a man of high integrity.
Lastly, my brother and I do not need your pity. Everyone in my family is doing well. You, on the other hand, are ranting and raving on an internet forum about comments alleged from 30+ years ago.
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Well now, maybe we're talking about two different Dale Jackson's. The Dale I knew worked for Asplundh Tree in Detroit, and for Doyle Young's tree service in Ft. Lauderdale. You could ask Ron Kangas, he was lead elder in Detroit. A dear friend of mine, known out here as Hosepipe, was a close friend of Dale in Ft. Lauderdale, and talked him into applying at an opening at a stock brokerage, cuz Dale was gifted with numbers. That was the best advice for Dale financially. All this was before you were born.
Look, I really liked Dale, in Detroit and in Ft. Lauderdale, until he drank the kool-aid in the LC and changed for the worse. But perhaps it's not Dale's fault. Mel Porter, the lead elder back then, was using brothers as spy's. And he was using 14 brothers to seed the meetings so they would go his way. So much for Spirit led meetings. All this done in secret. And Dale may have fallen for Mel's dirty tricks.
In the end, no matter what Dale said or did, it all goes back to Mel Porter. He was the one brewing the kool-aid in the church in Ft. Lauderdale ; mixing with the real kool-aid brewed by Witness Lee.
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Originally Posted by Plenteous
You, on the other hand, are ranting and raving on an internet forum about comments alleged from 30+ years ago.
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And there goes another lie we were told in the LC, that, if we left the local church God would strike us dead. I know lots that left the LC back in those days. None of them that I know personally have died.
And Plenteous, sorry if I've bashed your father. To be honest what Dale said about me was a minor concern compared to the meeting he spoke it in. After Dale said what he said Mel Porter stood up and said : "There are those among us that are trying to destroy Witness Lee's works. You know who you are. You have one week to stand up in a meeting and confess your sins, or you will be excommunicated. If you are not for us then get out." Then he pumped his fist in the air and chanted "If you are not for us then get out" ... repeating it until the whole meeting joined him in pumping fists and chanting "if you're not for us get out" over and over again. It was insane.
And for the first time in 10 years I saw that I was in a cult. And within a week Mel told me that if I was to go on the the church I had to take his personality as my own, and if I wanted to blow my nose I had to ask him which side first. And that was it. The final straw. It was clear to me that the local church was/is a cult. I had to get out.
And Plenteous, it doesn't matter if you believe me or not. You have your own cognitive dissonance to deal with.