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Originally Posted by Igzy
Right. Church leaders. Not Recovery leaders. The Bible doesn't have anything to say about Recovery leaders. I'm not saying saints don't want to know who the leaders are. I'm saying that the question can't really be answered from a Biblical standpoint because the Bible has nothing to say about the leadership of Recoveries.
See my point? That's why it's so insidious. Because the thing itself is never really defined accurately. What is it? They purposely keep it vague so they can make up their own rules as they go.
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I'm not understanding why you are differentiating Recovery leaders from so-called "church" leaders on this thread. If the differences are so "insidious," then we should discuss it. And who are these "church" leaders? Are you referring to the parish priest where I grew up? Perhaps the guy running for POTUS? They are both considered "church" leaders. Of course, the Bible says nothing about "Recovery" leaders, but neither does it mention "Baptist" leaders either.
I'm not trying to be funny here. The thread title mentions "Church Leaders" on a LC forum, and I thought that's what was being discussed. Perhaps a few lurkers out there have had the same issues that I have faced.
I have said repeatedly that we
should submit and obey church leaders based on Hebrew 13.17. Paul's instruction was pretty straightforward. After 30 years in the Recovery, I reached the point where I could not, in all good conscience, continue submitting to these leaders. I faced serious issues on a local, regional, and national level.
I was hoping for healthy feedback, that's all.