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Originally Posted by Igzy
If you simply cannot find a group that suits you, consider that the problem may be you and not the groups.
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I don't think the issue is finding a group that suits me. Rather it is the question of what group suits God? What pleases Him? What fulfills His purpose in Christ?
The idea of the discussion was submission and obedience to group/church leaders. What is God's idea of leadership? And when leadership is displayed in the group, how does one imitate/follow/disciple oneself/obey/submit?
Obviously, as a Christian, I believe that God's idea of leadership is found in Jesus Christ. Christ was fully submissive to the Father, and thus was able (empowered) to carry out God's will on earth. We as his disciples should do likewise.
While this is found in the group setting (where I also find myself), this leadership of submitting to the Father's will and being empowered to carry out His purpose is also, Christ-like, being displayed. I try to see it and follow/obey/submit. But I don't find leadership exclusively by human position (deacon/elder/bishop/apostle/etc), and believe that looking to these positions can lead to manipulation and abuse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Igzy
If you determine the problem is you and your attitude, make adjustments,
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I take as a given that the problem lies with me and my attitude. I am a sinner. Thus I try to constantly make adjustments. If Paul said, "I do not consider myself to have yet laid hold", then how much more have I not?