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Old 09-11-2012, 07:37 PM   #69
Peter Debelak
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Default Re: Should Members Obey or Submit to Church Leaders?

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Originally Posted by Igzy View Post

At the same time, I think holding back in order to preserve your independence is artificial, and a little sad. It seems to spring from fear. There's nothing wrong with participating in some local team spirit. It's normal to want to feel a part of things. Again, it's human nature. If that means "joining" in the mind of someone, what wrong with that?
No one here is claiming a need for "independance." You deeply misunderstand my argument if you think that.

That said, you make two arguments, conflated as one here. One is an encouraging one that allows liberty to a believer to "join in." The other is a disparagement argument to the Christian who may have robust fellowship but not in a "formal group."

Is the latter Christian "sad" and unhealthy in some way? If so, based on what?
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