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Originally Posted by Igzy
In THIS discussion (as opposed to the local ground discussion) it is YOU who is arguing for the more "practical expression" (of leaders, in this case). That is, you contend that leadership manifests in OFFICES rather than situationally and/or according to growth in life. [B]Your argument seems to be "follow leaders until it violates your conscience." My response would be, "why not just follow my conscience?"
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My point is you can't have a group without leadership. (Anyone have an example of a church of any appreciable size working for any appreciable time without leaders?)
Yes, you can cite exceptions, but generally speaking the only groups without recognized leaders are either very small, informal groups, or mobs.
I never said follow leaders until it violates your conscience. Obviously, you always need to follow your conscience. But many times your conscience is going to tell you to follow your leaders. We verbalize respecting leadership because the Bible verbalizes it.
Most of our problems with leadership are not matters of right and wrong (conscience), but matters of judgment and opinion. For example, our leader wants to focus more on discipleship. We think we should focus more on evangelism. Our leader likes slow music. We like peppy music. Our leader wants to fund overseas missions. We want to build a new children's center.
That's where the problems with leadership usually arise. Problems of conscience are actually simple compared to problems of differing opinion.