[MacDuff]

Truth

You are putting everyone on this forum in the same bucket (ie. we all hate the Recovery and want to put it down and that is why we are on this forum).

This is an unfair assessment of the members here. We have all kinds of members here.

My post was intentionally general and simultaneously directed toward a certain element in two forums that seem to be stuck in place.

Perhaps you can consider some of these matters in relation to the Recovery.

From my post,

My initial contact with the Recovery, at Elden Hall, was between 1970 and the move to Anaheim, whenever that was.

About four months ago, I revisited a couple of Recovery churches after well over thirty years. Don’t know why other than it just came to my mind to do so for some reason. I stuck it out for a month in each location. The contrast between then and now is remarkable.

Among Christians, what the Bible says is very subjective and depends on the individual. Until the individual joins a denomination. Then the subjectivity of the denomination becomes the subjectivity of the individual.

Anarchy only implies that you have a group of people walking in the way non-believers walk, instead of walking by the rule of the Spirit within. And thus need human rulers to prevent it.

For all the claims of being somehow connected to the supernatural, when push comes to shove, one finds that Christians are just as earthly and human as is the rest of humanity. Even to having the need for human rulers, as if their God is dead. A difference that makes no difference is no difference.

Just happens that Witness Lee was smart enough to create his own <kingdom>. And like any other free enterprise, it’s doing well for all concerned, each according to their own need. Those who need power, or need money, or need a religious crutch, it’s all available in the Recovery. Interesting it’s the ones who need the crutch that provide the rest with the power and the money.

I do attend a Christian Church that gives me all the religion I need. According to most of the pattern laid out to the ekklesia in Jerusalem, the first ekklesia (Acts 2:42). I hear the Bible (the Apostles doctrine) read there, pray verbally and by song, take communion (breaking of bread), talk to believers (fellowship, literally sharing) to the extent that I can without being subjected to the form of Closed Communion common to this particular denomination.

MacDuff