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Old 08-30-2012, 10:38 AM   #29
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Default Re: Should Members Obey or Submit to Church Leaders?

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Originally Posted by MacDuff View Post
Concerning, Heb 13:17, the Greek word often translated obey means to be persuaded in or to trust in. It’s related to the same Greek word that means to have faith in or to be convinced about. The Greek word often translated as ruler, refers to those who lead, not in the sense of rule. The Greek word often translated as submit just refers to yielding oneself to. Not as strong as the word submit would imply. So what is being said is “Trust those who lead you and yield to them.” The writer was referring to this situation alone, to this group of people alone. It is not the blanket statement that Christian rulers try to make it. But Christianity is determined to use this verse as one of the verses that show that a Church is to have an authoritative hierarchy. And they can’t even agree as to what constitutes that hierarchy.
Hey MacDuff,

Welcome to the forum!

What you wrote here is of interest to me concerning Hebrews 13.17. Can you provide more source information about the Greek words for submit and obey? I did a little searching on my own and I could not find support for this view.

Also, not sure why you seemed to have a slightly antagonistic tone. Hopefully we can help one another in our journeys. Don't judge a book by its cover, or a forum by just one post!
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