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Originally Posted by aron
When Peter tried to tell Jesus what to do, he got corrected immediately, and firmly. Should we not also do this with those who attempt to "lord it over us" (cf 1 Peter 5)? Or do we rather bear gladly with those who abuse us? I don't think Paul was congratulating those in Corinth when he wrote "In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or pushes himself forward or slaps you in the face. (2 Cor 11:20)". I don't think that is "being subject" in a proper way. That is rather being a "man-pleaser". Paul didn't bear with those who thought they were something, and who attempted to distort the flock. "We were not subject to them, even for one hour (Gal 2:5)".
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Great points,
aron.
In the context of LC discussions, I am
not advocating that we should submit and obey any Christian leaders which have
ruled over us in the likeness of both Anaheim and Cleveland. The lackeys in both of these ministries, who promote their own leaders, have become little more than enablers of abusive and controlling leaders. They are like Diotrophes of old, who not only loved to be first, but also demand that they alone are the first.
Many have thus become "
man-pleasers." They were far more concerned about pleasing their leader, than they were in pleasing the Lord or serving His people. This disease of man-pleasing is a root sickness in the Recovery. Many have sacrificed their own conscience to abide there.
Of course, leaving the Recovery like we all did, I can understand the aversion in many posters to submitting and obeying any Christian leader. But I also see the dangers of substituting one extreme for another. Neither is healthy, and both go against the instructions of the scripture.