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Originally Posted by John
Heb 13:17 (from post #64):
From the Greek, “be you being persuaded to the ones leading you and be you deferring” (scripture4all.org). The language in this verse carries a much different sense than “obey and submit.”
In these verses, I find no injunction compelling a member of a church to obey anyone leading in a church. With the exception of Heb 13:17, the verses are taken out of context and, thus, do not support the claim. As to Heb 13:17, your claim is much more forceful (obey and submit) than is justified by the meaning of the Greek words or the intent of the language used in that verse.
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John, what you've posted puts Hebrews 13:17 in a new light. No longer does it appear to be a verse of absolute submission and authority. Thank you.