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Old 08-10-2008, 06:10 PM   #33
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Nell, Hope referred to an elders' training in 1984. The books you referred to are from Feb 1986. Are they the same? Or are the dates right?
Books 1-4 are from a training from Feb. 1984. Not too bad but the seeds are there, especially Book 1.

Books 5-6 are from Sept 1985. Some things in Book 5 about the "old books" seem to even contradict things said in Book 4. Almost seem out of place in the set.

All of the above were published in Dec. 1985.

Books 7-8 were the one where the elder's loyalty oath was signed. The text of that letter appears in Book 8. Book 7 is really the nut of the problems, in my view. It's interesting to see Lee's comments, repeatedly given in several books, that the date for the change in his attention to the practical matters is given as October 1984 while looking back over at the content of Books 1-4 from Feb. 1984.

Books 9-10 are basically remixed publications from 1986, published in the Elders' Training set in 1991.

Book 11 is from 1991. It shows Lee's frustration with the lack of progress since 1984 in an almost palpable way. It's especially interesting to me that he is accusing them of building up a papacy and a clergy/laity system at that point...
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