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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
Are you really serious? Paul said that he was a wise master builder, compared other ministers to those that build and water, and urged us to imitate him. If someone takes the Lord's word that He will build the church and interprets that to say that in this age the Lord's unique work is the building of the church how do you draw the implied meaning from that as "He will fail if we don't help"?
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But Paul was not the basis of the development of the MOTA teaching, at least as you said it. Jesus said he would build his church. Even if he intends to use us (which we know that he is), there is nothing in that particular passage you mentioned that indicated we are anything more than the results. Even though we ultimately know that we
are part, that passage does not identify any such part. You need a different passage. And you jumped to Paul's words. That would be the place — not Matthew.
It is one thing to establish that we are part of the process of building the church. But a verse in which Jesus simply says "I will build my church" is not the place from which you develop such an idea. It surely does not establish some kind of super-minister.
So it is reasonable to then look at 1 Cor and the wise master builder. And, once again, there is nothing that I see that supports some super-minister. (And I believe you agree with that.) "A" wise master builder is not "the" wise master builder.
So it would appear that the answer to "are you serious" would be "yes." That passage does not support what it takes other verses to support. And
that passage does not give us a part. Others do.
But none of them define a role of MOTA. That is vain imaginations of someone who wants to be the MOTA.