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Originally Posted by Ohio
SavedByGrace, these ones were not just "brothers in another locality," they were WL and PL who ran the ministry which was beginning to invade every part of the local church life back in the 80's. Behind the scenes WL and TC were struggling as to "who had the rights" to our eldest brother, and shepherd in the Lord. I could go on for hours how damaging and disrupting LSM and ministry leaders have been to the local churches I have been a part of, but I'm not sure you would like to hear that.
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Apologies for my statement 'If you are expecting the local church to be the 'perfect' church, you will be disappointed. And, that is what seems to have happened.'.
If I am in a local church where there is huge influence from external agents (without the permission of the local administration), I would be forced to leave the local church.
You believe you had valid reasons to leave the local church and I accept it. But, I do not accept that those reasons apply to all local churches nor do I agree that everyone should avoid the local churches.
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Originally Posted by Ohio
You have been in the Recovery about 10 years. Several years ago LSM and its affiliate DCP sent operatives into Midwest churches to "train" them how to bring lawsuits against their elders in order to capture church properties and assets. LSM sponsored lawsuits occurred in Toronto, Mansfield, and Columbus. Other churches faced the risk of lawsuits. Many churches were torn in half with conflicts dividing families in half. Does this qualify as something that would upset you if it happened in your place?
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I don't think law suits would work in my country. Anyways, most of the saints are poor. So, most of the churches cannot afford property.
It would upset me if the local church divided my family. But, I doubt my family would be divided by the local church. Most of my immediate family members are in the local church. But, if they decide to join another denomination tomorrow, I will not hate them.
Some of my immediate family members and most of my extended family members are from different denominations including Catholic and I am close to all of them. Personally (i.e. in non-spiritual matter), we do not have any issues at all with my relatives. Regarding spiritual matters, we believe we are on the better track but they do not think so. And, both of us are fine with it. It is not something we fight over.
When I go to their house, if they are praying, I join them. If I am asked to pray, I pray the way I usually pray in the local churches. When they pray, they pray the way they pray in their churches (some of which is recitation of prayers from the prayer book or the Lord's prayer).