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Old 03-22-2012, 05:03 PM   #75
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Default Re: pay no attention to the MOTA behind the curtain...

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
You said "silent majorities rarely get anything done". What do you want them to "get done"?
Isn't it obvious from what I wrote?

Two points have been established. One by SbG, one by you.

SbG established that to his observation, he didn't appreciate the negative reputation that LSM and the BBs, and by association the LRCs, had here. He also noted that, even so, he did not agree with some of the more extreme views of these leaders.

My answer was that reputation was LSM's and the BB's fault. So if SbG wants to be freed from that reputation, he ought to either free himself from the BBs, or get them to reform.

You on the other hand established that to most LRCers, WL was not that big a deal.

My answer was that to LSM and the BBs he IS a big deal. So, again, the solution is to either free themselves from the BBs, or reform them.

But in general it doesn't make sense to expect a movement of churches to submit to spiritual leadership that doesn't reflect their core beliefs. Believers ought to be able to walk away from that, but stay intact as churches.

I disagree with your passive spirituality. It sounds noble, but I think it's wrongheaded. It's just the kind of passivity that the BBs count on. And nowhere does the NT suggest we should remain silent about bad leaders and let the Lord sort it out when he returns. In fact, the strongest VERBAL rebukes in the NT are reserved for corrupt and abusive spiritual leaders.

The LSM rank and file need to speak out and demand LSM and the BBs reform. Telling LRCers to wait till the Lord returns for things to get better is horrible advice, IMHO.
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