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Originally Posted by Unregistered
This may also answer Ohio's question. Peter was not a cheerleader for himself, but turned us to Jesus. Likewise with Paul. Did they have failings? Yes. Does that mean we cannot benefit from their ministry? No.
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Well ... thanks un
Reggie ... but ...
You merely addressed the obvious concerning the early Apostles. What about today's ministers? What about LSM's ministers? LSM just loves to proclaim how "nobody's perfect" when it comes to their own long history of failures, but when it comes to heaping condemnation upon Christianity without, and quarantining former ministers within, they are merciless, and that's something they are proud of.
But listen folks ... I did not leave the Recovery after 30 odd years because of a few "
failings." I have far too many "
failings" of my own to worry about others' "
failings." This forum does not exist because some ministry in Anaheim just had a few "
failings."
I also can overlook LSM's own cheerleading efforts, but don't you admit that they took this way over the top? WL did not just sell himself as the best around, the Minister of the Age, the Acting God, but he condemned all others outside his Recovery. Where does this stop being a brother's "failing" and become a system of error? But, still ... I never left the Recovery because some had become plain old arrogant and egotistical.
Back to the question at hand: Are we ever justified, as members of the body of Christ, to hold our leaders accountable, and is there ever a point at which their "failings" disqualify them from the ministry?