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Originally Posted by Paul Cox
Nobody from CFP has ever declared that Stephen Kaung is the Minister of the Age, God's Oracle on the earth, or the Acting God.
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Is your problem the few phrases? If it is, blame the speaker of the word, not the publisher? LSM publishes everything spoken by a few brothers. So, it has to publish everything spoken, irrespective of whether it is right or wrong.
Just because LSM publishes something or Br. Lee speaks something does not make it divine or infallible. We all have our spirits to discern right and wrong. I have a spirit which lets me know what to accept and reject. So, I accept the many, many publications by LSM which I feel is good. If there are any publications I cannot agree with or I think are incorrect, I reject it.
[Solomon wrote the Song of Songs and went astray. But, that does not mean the Song of Songs is bad. Similarly, Peter disowned the Lord and separated himself from Gentiles when the Jews arrived. But, I cannot reject the books of Peter.]
And, if you want my views on the phrases, 'The Minister of the Age' is something I do not agree with. No one can be uniquely ministering, esp. when even the apostles had to work together.
'God's oracle' does not bother me because I understand oracle to mean someone who speaks/communicates God's word. So, most teachers of the Bible are oracles of God. Even when I prophesy, if I am speaking Christ, I am an oracle of God.
I have not heard the phrase 'acting God' directly though I had heard about it. So, I read the context in which it was said.
In my opinion, Br. Ron could have avoided the phrase to avoid offending others. But, I am personally not offended because I understand the context of the usage very well. Acting God means acting for God just as Paul was acting/speaking for God in 1 Cor 7:10
To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord)
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Originally Posted by Paul Cox
None of the groups getting help from Stephen Kaung, neither individually, nor collectively have ever called themselves 'The Lord's Recovery,' or 'God's Move on the Earth,' ...
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Is your problem with the terms 'Lord's Recovery' or 'Lord's Move'?
How is it worser than 'Assembly of God', 'Church of God', or the so many other names?
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Originally Posted by Paul Cox
... while at the time taking every opportunity to demean and find fault with everything that is not them. No one person or group of people who stopped fellowshiping with the Assemblies were said to have left God's Best, and no one who ever dared to speak contrary to them has been called inspired by Satan, rebellious or any such thing.
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And, regarding people who are not in the Lord's Recovery, I defer to Br. Lee's word in LIFE-STUDY OF MARK MESSAGE TWENTY-NINE(not because Br. Lee's words are divine but because I felt that Br. Lee has explained it well)
In 9:38 John said to the Lord Jesus, “Teacher, we saw someone casting out demons in Your name who does not follow us, and we forbade him, because he was not following us.” The remainder of this chapter is given over to the Lord’s teaching concerning tolerance for the sake of unity, a teaching given in response to John’s statement in verse 38.We need to see that if we forbid others in the way John did in verse 38, this indicates that we consider ourselves greater than others. Furthermore, when we forbid others, thinking ourselves to be greater, we also cause others to stumble. While we are causing others to stumble, we are also causing ourselves to stumble. The evil one may use the members of our body—the hand, the foot, or the eye—to express lust and cause us to stumble. We need to be very careful regarding this.
We should not consider ourselves great. Instead, we need to realize that we are nobody and nothing. If we have this realization, we shall pray. For us to pray indicates that we realize that we are nothing and that we can do nothing. We need another One—Christ Himself—to replace us.
If we do not consider ourselves to be someone great, someone greater than others, we shall not cause others to stumble. But if we think that we are great, we shall cause others to stumble. At the same time, we shall open the gate for the enemy to use the lust in our members to cause us to stumble.
The members of our body, especially the eyes, are lustful. If we cause others to stumble by considering ourselves greater than they are, we may have a wicked eye. Then the way will be open for the enemy to utilize the lust in our members to cause us to stumble.