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Originally Posted by Ohio
Listen ... and I think I speak for other posters also ... I was active in the LC's for 30 years. I knew hundreds of saints ... thousands more via conferences and trainings around the globe. I never met one single brother or sister, who was actively serving in the LC's, who was not solidly saved, born of the Spirit, washed in the blood of the Lamb, consecrated to God, and loving the Lord fervently. Sure there were guests, friends and family in the meetings who were not so zealous for the Lord, but I am not talking about them.
I am saying that this matter of modalism is a non-issue, and furthermore, the matter of people in the LC's not being saved because of some modalistic belief is utter nonsense.
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I must agree with this assessment. And take it even further. Those who weren't so outwardly "hot" were most likely just as "saved" as anyone anywhere.
We easily think the ones who who we see as being actively serving (in the LR or elsewhere) and who we can identify outwardly as loving the Lord fervently must be saved. And we are probably right. But in such environments as the LC and some other extremes of outward practice, I would figure that few who didn't truly believe wouldn't tolerate it for too long. So I would suggest that most who at least regularly attend, even if not seen as being so "burning" are most likely saved. There are few who have not at least shared a testimony that points to their salvation, or would be inconsistent with a nonbeliever.
And while Paul may have had a lot to say to the LRC if he were still around writing letters, like all the others, I doubt he would even suggest that there is a lack of salvation. Instead a lack of continuing according to the teaching of Christ. The LRC probably looks a lot like Corinth. Stuck on the every word of one minister to the exclusion of all others. Excluding each other from their little circles, yet failing to deal with serious open sin. And overly focused on secondary (at best) things like terminology, better meetings, and ground.
Paul didn't waste the kind of words he put in the letters on the unsaved. He was speaking to those who had come to faith. We are not even close to being "Pauls," but our position is the same — speaking to other Christians who are seriously missing some point.