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However, even though the clear word of both the Old and New Testament say that they become “one flesh” you say that we know from experience that this is not true.
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Guest 1,
First off you are misrepresenting my words. I never it wasn't "true." I said an extreme literal interpretation of "one flesh" was not required by scripture.
The Lord also said that the elements of the Lord's Table were His Body and His blood. But I don't see you siding with the Catholics on taking that literally.
I'm not against interpreting an "organic" aspect of our relationship with the Lord. I'm against taking it to such an extreme that it becomes more important than the relational aspect. This is what I think Lee did.
If you want to interpret verses like "one flesh" in such an extreme way, that's your business. But's it's certainly not required by scripture. I prefer a more moderate interpretation because that seems more in line with the general thrust of Scripture, more balanced, and in keeping with the general view of most Christian teachers.
Further as I've said I see a manifest problem with the extreme pushing of the "organic" aspect. My question is, honestly, how does doing that help your Christian life? Does it help you know the Lord better? Does it make you more like Him? Does it cause you to love and serve others the way He did? If it does, fine. Or are you pushing it just because Lee pushed it?
My personal experience with taking that extreme "organic" way is that it tends to get one in the realm of a kind of impersonal relationship with the Lord, where one thinks one is being changed by the process of being in a kind of organic flow, when actually no changing is going on at all because one is not focused on actually becoming more like Christ in temperament and attitude by way of direct obedience to His word and personal leading, but rather on being in a kind of abstract flowing experience of "dispensing."
This manifestly results in a church movement that thinks it is the center of what God is doing while it goes about trashing all other Christian groups, suing other Christians for millions of dollars, assassinating the character of former members, writing bizzare websites like
www.afaithfulword.org, and generally treating the people Christ died for as means to an end. Definitely not the expression of Christ.