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Old 12-22-2011, 08:28 AM   #188
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Default Re: Good Lee/Bad Lee: Can they be separated?

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Originally Posted by Igzy View Post
I don't need to prove a negative. The onus is on you to prove that Lee's extreme impersonal view of the Body is correct. I say in light of the Bible taken as a whole it is an extreme.

I already gave you a scriptural basis anyway. Taken as a whole the Bible plainly presents the relationship between God and people as the relationship between conscious persons. That is the fundamental relationship between God and people--a personal relationship between beings with self-consciousness, minds, emotions, wills, desires, likes, dislikes, preferences, uniquenesses, and so forth.

This is more than plain. I don't need to quote the verses because there are thousands of them.

Any description of our relationship with God cannot leave this personal aspect out. Lee took some pictures too far, to the point of depersonalizing the relationship in some cases. He made for example the relationship between the Vine and the branches a pure unconscious, life relationship. Likewise with the Head and the Body. But the Bible doesn't put this forth as the meaning of the Vine or the Body. He took the persons out of the equation and pushed the life-force aspect way too much.

This fed the depersonalization you see in the LRCs, where they regularly treat people as means to an end. That's the fruit of this kind of teaching.

In Post #173 I questioned your statement
“We are part of Christ in the same type of way spouses are part of each other.”

I asked you to provide a couple of NT verse references to support your statement. This has nothing to do with “proving a negative” or my being required to support WL’s extreme views. You have given us this statement and I would like to know where you get this from. A simple request.
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