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Originally Posted by OBW
How do you arrive at the notion that we have no right, or even responsibility, to judge whether a person actually is what he claims to be, especially if he is asserting a claim of authority upon others?
You have created a universe in which those who dare to make a claim are, by default, not subject to questioning.
"You don't question God!" "I'm just trying to find out why God needs a Starship."
That may seem a ridiculous example. But if we cannot judge for ourselves whether any particular person is a MOTA, then we are stuck with a universe in which every nut who opens his mouth in a way that is attractive will be able to do anything they want. I recall Max R making fun of the rash of "Yogis" [sic] coming out in the late 70s. He noted that all they had to do was say "Up is up. Down is down. The hands of the clock go 'round and 'round" and they would have a following. You now would declare that no one has any right to question their veracity.
And if we are misunderstanding you, then you really need to restate a few of these lines because several of us are having problems with them. We failed to stand up when more ridiculous things than this were said by Lee back in the 60s and 70s and look what it got us.
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Igzy said "there is no possible way to know he is such a thing" I was responding to this. My point is the word "judge" does not have to refer to a negative judgment. My point was that when Jesus said "judge not lest you be judged" we usually take that to mean "don't think evil of someone else" but it could also mean "don't think that someone else is "the MOTA" either". I then pointed out that many on this and other forums have expressed regret or even guilt that they accepted some of these judgments while in the LRC. So, as a result of judging that WL was the MOTA or that the LRC is some kind of elite group of Christians they also are feeling that they are getting judged with the same judgement with which they judged.