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Old 11-21-2011, 03:24 PM   #16
ZNPaaneah
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Default Re: Can you dismiss WL's ministry because of his sins?

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Originally Posted by OBW View Post
Off topic. Non responsive. Strawman. Red herring.

Any number of ways to respond to your irrelevancy.

I have not exacted vengeance on anyone. I am warning others of a dangerous pit with a false floor covering it. I do not desire to skewer Lee. I desire for those who are blinded by his charm, charisma, and rhetoric to be freed from it. It would be the same if he were alive. I really don't care if he gets his "just dessert." I only care that chains are broken, eyes are healed, and captives are set free.

I presume that a dose of the truth — and not just "truth" as defined by Lee — will help many find their way to that freedom and healing. It won't be to my benefit, but to theirs.
Off Topic? The topic is defined in the first post, it is the comment in red. You are not the topic. What you are doing and what you desire to do is completely irrelevant to this thread. The use of the term “true servant of God” is without doubt a judgement. If your post summarizing the sins of WL was not a defense of this judgement then your post was off topic and a strawman. The use of the term jury in post #1 implies judgement. I am aware that my understanding may not have been the intended meaning, so I made it clear in the first post just say so and that would be that. So although that post quotes your quote of James, I did not imply that it was clear what you were saying. That is why I said Unreg “restated” your post.

If we were both at the judgement seat of Christ when WL was being judged and the Lord said “You are not a true servant of God, depart from me, I never knew you” that would be a judgement and it would be vengeance. That is the topic of this thread, whose place is it to utter that judgement? Is it for this forum, or for Untohim, or is this something reserved only for the Lord.

This is why I also quoted the reference to the church in Ephesus in Revelation by Untohim. Is judging that an apostle is false equivalent to saying that WL is not a true servant of God or not? Nor have I suggested that I have the answer, as Ohio has pointed out this is like splitting hairs. I feel it is like what is referred to in Hebrews, immature Christians are not practiced in the word of righteousness. I would agree that this is not an easy concept, but I think it is crucial.

So your post does not address the topic nor have you clarified the confusion of your post. Do you believe there is a fundamental truth in the NT that blessing and cursing cannot come from the same source. Since WL’s sins can be considered cursing or poison is that a valid basis to reject all of his ministry?
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