Mordecai

I would like D. Canfield to provide one substantial example of any proponents of "the ground" (Lee, Chu, etc.) reaching out to any Christian group in order to pursue "visible practical oneness." Indeed, what groups has Dave himself pursued in order to realize the "visible practical oneness?" Please give the name of the group, what fellowship took place, and why it didn't work. If there has not been valiant and continuing efforts, then none of these people who teach "the ground" actually believe it. Without efforts to attain it, championing "the ground" is mere hollow dogma. In fact, stating it as a divine requirement with reasoning and verses while not practicing it is just sin. Dear Dave, please work through the hardships related to this "visible oneness" by actively pursuing it and learning the cross. By now you should have realized that your version of "visible oneness" does not even work within the LC program that taught it for almost a century. Hopefully at some point you will also realize that such oneness cannot be founded on your own terms (i.e., your elders, your apostle, your opinions about church structure, worship styles, what counts as the Spirit, what ministry materials are valuable, etc.).