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Old 10-24-2011, 10:47 AM   #18
zeek
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Default Re: Transformation: Did Lee Miss the Point?

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Romans 5:10 " For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.


This verse states that the salvation after reconciliation is accomplished by His life. This is not the same thing as living according to decisions about right and wrong as you suggest.

The christian life is living out the life of a Person. To miss this is to miss the point of the christian life.
It's remarkable how this corresponds with my experience of abdicating the normal use of my mind when I was in the local church. It's passive and mindless. How do you picture the "life" you are taking in? Is it like clear flowing water? "Don't make decisions just take in life and live out the life of another person." That's what I did all right. Until I woke up and realized I had been duped. The people who will take advantage of you if stop making decisions and just take in and live out "life" are not just people outside the local church. In my experience the majority of the members were sincerely trying to follow this teaching while a minority, the leaders mostly, were using them. Is it an accident that this mesmerizing pacifying teaching renders people vulnerable to be manipulated by the clever rapacious sociopaths in the group? I doubt it.
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Ken Gemmer- Church in Detroit, Church in Fort Lauderdale, Church in Miami 1973-86


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