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Originally Posted by Igzy
You have failed to explain how one can submit and not obey. I don't think you know the answer to my question, so why don't you just admit it?
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Sorr, Igzy... It seems that you have not seen the light in the quoted teachings of Brother Watchman Nee --
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SUBMISSION BEING ABSOLUTE, BUT OBEDIENCE BEING RELATIVE
Submission is a matter of attitude, but obedience is a matter of conduct. Acts 4:19 says, “But Peter and John answered and said to them, Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, you judge.” The apostles, however, were not rebellious in their spirit; they were still submitting to all those who were in authority. Obedience is not absolute. Some authorities we have to obey, but others we cannot obey. The latter include those who touch on basic matters of the Christian faith, such as our belief in the Lord and the liberty of preaching the gospel. A son can say anything to his father. But there cannot be any attitude of rebellion. Our submission should always be absolute. In some matters we can be obedient at the same time that we are submissive. In other matters we cannot be obedient, but we still have to remain submissive. All these are a matter of attitude.
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Example:
If I am located in a country that prohibits you to exercise your Christian faith publicly, I will absolutely be submissive. However, this does not mean that I will no longer exercise my Christian faith in private or personally. As soon as I exercise my Christian faith, then I am not obeying the governing authority of that country. By this, my attitude was absolutely submissive to the governing authority and my conduct was relative "Whether it is right in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God."
Is there any biblical example as cited above? Yes, of course!
Daniel was "disobedient" ?
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Daniel 6
10 Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before. 11 Then these men went as a group and found Daniel praying and asking God for help. 12 So they went to the king and spoke to him about his royal decree: "Did you not publish a decree that during the next thirty days anyone who prays to any god or man except to you, O king, would be thrown into the lions' den?"
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Daniel was "submissive"
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Daniel 6
21 Daniel answered, "O king, live forever! 22 My God sent his angel, and he shut the mouths of the lions. They have not hurt me, because I was found innocent in his sight. Nor have I ever done any wrong before you, O king."
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