[UntoHim]

Originally Posted by Ohio

JustynM from the other forum is convinced that WL and all current and former members are all modalists, and thus should all be considered a cult. The Bible has fewer demands than the Berean management.

I think it may be helpful to understand that just because somebody is under the ministry of someone who teaches heresy, that does NOT make them a heretic. Only the person who actually teaches heresy should be considered a heretic.

Furthermore, in my view, there are degrees or shades of heresy. Some heresy may take the form of gross misinterpretation and misuse of the scriptures. I think many, if not most, of the "heresies" (open for debate!) taught by Witness Lee fall under this category of misinterpretation and misuse of the scriptures.

A glaring, red-letter example of this is Witness Lee's teachings regarding the trinity - they are at the very least extremely contradictory and confusing, and this has lead to the somewhat "confused" question by our friend Abounding.

Originally Posted by Abounding

It is modalism if the same God became or transformed into the Son and then the Spirit. It is not modalism if the Father, Son, and Spirit are eternal. Right?

Like OBW says

Originally Posted by OBW

I would suggest that it is not that simple either way.

Witness Lee tried to make it simple by saying that Isaiah 9:6 say that the Father is called the Son and that 1 Corinthians 15:45 says the Son became the Spirit. It does not help that these are the very same verses used by many of the "Jesus only" proponents, such as the Oneness Pentecostals.

Please note that these are my personal views and not the "official position" of this forum. The official position of this forum is that anybody's view is just as official as the next. Everybody's arguments will rise and fall upon there own merit, especially when it comes to proposals and contentions placed here in the apologetic discussions board.