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Dear ZNPaaneah, it is interesting that you bring forth Paul's experience after the shipwreck. So you must think there is some direct corollary here? It appears that basically you see Steve Isitt standing in the position of Paul. Please help us understand further what correspondence you might see between these two events.
"Everyone is watching him" - Who is watching, everyone? The shunners? The forum readers?
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I was referring to those shunning him.
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"they are all ashamed of their behavior" Who is ashamed of their behavior? I have not yet met anyone aligned with the LSM/LC who is ashamed about what has happened to Steve.
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In my experience, the vast majority of saints are sheep. The leaders tell them to shun someone, they do it. However, they still have a conscience. I have seen saints struggle greatly with doing something that their conscience disagrees with yet they feel the pressure from the church leaders to do and fear to rebel. Psalms talks about "deep calleth unto deep". I believe that this kind of trial is a trial of your faith, and part of that faith is believing that the saints have a conscience and that deep calleth unto deep.
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"they have the same conscience as you and I" - Who in this story do you think has the same conscience as you and I? Are you assuming that both you and I have a healthy conscience???
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I am referring to the typical saint who is pressured into shunning a brother with little or no other basis other than the church leadership has said so. I assume the typical saint is a born again Christian with an active conscience, not one that has been seared. I am not referring to the leaders who in my mind may have seared their conscience by now, don't know.
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"Everyone considered him a murderer" - Who considers him a murderer? And who is the real murderer? Who is the one who really brings DEATH? Jesus taught that one who is angry in his heart toward another is guilty of murder!
"he showed no ill effect of that snake" - Who represents the snake in this story?
Please elaborate...
P.S.
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Acts 28:4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.