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Originally Posted by zeek
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That's a really fine and thoughtful answer. There is much there I perhaps I will speak to in more detail tomorrow. What I will say now is this. When we were in the Recovery we thought we were getting into the deep things of God.Yes Harold plays the provocateur. But, when I listen to him, I don't hear nonsense, I hear a challenge to go deeper. Perhaps we would prefer to skate on the surface rather then to accept the challenge that Harold poses to us. We might rather get back to our church games, our self-satisfied pious thoughts and our pat answers. If we drive Harold off of this website, we probably will.
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Nonsense. You are arguing against a strawman. There is no attempt to produce a good old boy network here. The point is not to drive off Harold, the point is to drive off impertinent manners of posting. As you said it's a matter of style. There are good manners of argumentation and bad ones. I agree that Harold makes me think. But all too often he simply throws stuff out that he can't back up, smarts off and generally acts as if just about everything is a joke. Then when pressed he plays the victim.
It's like he's become
Bilbodog. Nothing against Bilbodog, but he didn't know a valid argument from a hole in the ground.
I don't want him to leave the board. I just want him to start using his brain more. I want him to read up on how make an argument and start doing it, and stop thinking being cute and clever is a substitute for thinking.