[zeek]

Originally Posted by Ohio

When I read Harold's posts, I don't see the "challenge to go deeper," rather I read a continual discrediting of all things Christian and Biblical. It seems he longs to find salvation outside of the way of faith, and loves to zoom in on every apparent fault in man, that is, a "Christian" man.

Then you say to the rest of us, that by not accepting his "challenges," we are "skating on the surface," playing "church games," wallowing in our "self-satisfied pious thoughts" and our "pat answers."

zeek, do you have any idea how arrogant this sounds? Talk about condescending!

Harold is basically in a "church of one." Apart from him, everyone else is some hypocritical, foolish snob, living in deception. Only he sees thru the facade of religion, and he is challenging all others to "see" as he sees. To be honest with you, this is just pure old-fashioned self-righteousness. Unfortunately, I've seen it too many times already.

Supposedly, Harold is "right," and all others are in some form of "cargo-cult."

Like Igzy, I have to call 'em the way I see 'em. I'm not suggesting that you adopt Harold's perspective whole cloth. You can't do that anyway. I'm saying that Harold's insights provide a valuable function to this discussion, Without him, this discussion might slide into self-satisfied complacency, doctrinal reification, religious platitudes and a virtual good old boy network.