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Old 09-20-2011, 09:20 PM   #397
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Originally Posted by rayliotta View Post
Well, as far as Anaheim is concerned, they never *forced* anyone to accept their authority, either. But as long as the Midwest does not accept their authority, they will remain...separate. Like the separation between Jerusalem and Paul's ministry.
We know and they know this is posturing. A brother shared tonight a message from Witness Lee's in the late 80's. Per Witness Lee, If a local church doesn't want to take his ministry, they are still a local church. Practically and corporately.
There are similarities that exist between Anaheim of 1988 and that of Midwest localities around 2005. That is corporately turning from pushing the ministry and not postponing the local church life while bi-annual trainings are going on. Includes the video trainings too. There was the disclaimer saints who want the trainings can still take them in, but on their own time.
Problem is these statements are viewed as being negative towards the ministry, while the leaders taking this turn is from a focus on the ministry to being general corporately to where any Christian could walk through the door and realize they're home.
The posturing is they're not going to force any direction, but behind the scenes LSM and DCP employees were actively assisting local saints in taking action against their localities. What a coincidence these activities seemed to take place only in localities where real estate was at stake.
More of the posturing. Places such as Accra, Moses Lake, Westminster, Rosemead, Scottsdale, Raleigh, etc where there is a general expression of the church, but since "they're not in the flow, they're separate from us". This brings the discussion back to what brings us to assemble? Is it our mutual faith in Jesus Christ as our savior or is it taking the ministry as our corporate expression?
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