Ohio had this to say:
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Originally Posted by Ohio
Zeek, does it bother you at all that awareness seems to use every opportunity to attack the credibility of the Bible and that of all genuine Christians any chance he can?
Where do the limits of free speech end and the respect for God's word begin?
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In one sense I might disagree with Ohio about there being a limit to free speech. But actually, there really is a limit. It is never free. It costs to be able to speak as freely as we do. And one of the prices we pay is that a majority accepts the inability to simply stop what they don't like.
But I do agree with Ohio if for no other reason than this is not simply an open forum for anyone to say simply anything anytime and in any place. It is a forum with a purpose. Those who join it may not agree on everything, but they do need to agree on, or at least be bound by the purposes and rules of the forum. There are numerous topics that are simply not germane, even with the sort of "open mike" that a couple of the subforums allow.
We are not here debating "free speech." That is not relevant to the forum. I would agree that we should be able to say whatever we feel is truly of value to the discussions in progress. And Harold might try to argue that he is serious about some of his nonsense. But that is just that -- nonsense. One of the serious flaws in many of Lee's teachings is that he says things that are not actually founded on scripture or things that naturally flow from scripture. But he says them in a way that tricks too many people from thinking any more about it.
And we come along on this forum and discuss those teachings and eventually show that there is no clear way to get from what we know to be true to what Lee has said.
Harold sort of does the same. He says this stuff. And he makes no attempt to actually build a case for it. It just grabs sentiments, or prejudices (either way on either item) and gets you going. But there is no substance. If our objective is to take rational and plausible understandings of things and find our way to truth, then quickly dismissing the implausible or irrelevant is absolutely viable. And rejecting the out-of-bounds that doesn't even pretend to provide a basis is absolutely viable.
Igzy may have been harsh in his manner of assessment. But he was accurate. Scripture makes reference to the dung heap. We refer to it as BS. Or CS. It smells and it is rejected.
Sorry Harold. I know you can do better. Acting-out is not an acceptable behavior for adults. My kids got "time outs" for the kind of nonsense that you have been putting out lately. They were in single-digits in age at the time. You are more like 5 to 10 times that old. Your restraint should reflect some of that age. It isn't looking like the wisdom that comes with age, but the return to a second childhood.