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Originally Posted by awareness

How could Pember know what the devil does and doesn't do? He just spoke out his backside. Pember was a nutjob.

Truth is it is we that use the idea of the devil to get what we want.

An example is the Europeans claims that the native American Indians were possessed of Satan, as evidenced by them dancing around their campfires.

That gave the Europeans the right to commit genocide against the Indians, so they could take their lands.

The idea of the devil served them well. They then had a right before God to kill the Indians.

Truth is man is more of a devil than the devil is... I fear humans way more than I fear the devil....

Pember says that Plato derived the term demon from the greek adjective “dao” which signifies knowing, intelligent. He takes that to imply that the word points to superior knowledge believed to be possessed by disembodied spirits. He quotes Plato as saying "The deity has no intercourse with man; but all the intercourse and conversation between gods and men is carried on by the mediation of demons." Plato further explains that "the demon is an interpreter and carrier, from men to gods and from gods to men of prayers and sacrifices of the one and of the injunctions and rewards from the other."

Maybe that's what the demon/aliens are doing; that is, traveling to and from heaven on flying saucers with messages.