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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
1. Where in the NT does it say that the gift of apostles is gone? (no one is disputing that the original 12 Apostles + Paul are gone).
2. Is church tradition of shying away from the term Apostle a valid basis for a teaching or shouldn't our basis be the NT?
3. We all agree that the NT is the teaching of the apostles.
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Bro Mike will prolly hate this one ; thinking I always wax tangential from the topic.
Have you/we even considered that there may not be any certainty concerning apostles today?
I receive teachings from hundreds of different sources. But I don't need to elevate any of them, or endow them with some special authority.
A Church of Christ sister just recently revealed to me that for as far back as she can remember she's been looking for some authority to hook up to, but hasn't found it.
When I asked why she felt she needed an intermediary she was stunned at why she had never asked herself that question.
All her talk is : "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, is everything, and we depend only upon Him," but here she is looking for an intermediary authority.
Is that why we're so concerned about modern day apostles? Is our inner child guiding us? looking for a security blanket?
Thirty years ago I walked out of the local church because of the apostle thing ; that Lee was the apostle of the age.
I haven't needed an apostle ever since. Paul claimed to be apostle, but he also said he was a wretch.
Apostles? Thanks but no thanks. We're equals or we hint talking any more. And that goes for any of the apostles, if I could have met them.
If I need an answer, I might take a look in a hundred different places ... but ultimately I'm going to God.
And boy would I have lots to say to the self proclaimed apostle Saul. He might have been an apostle, but Paul was a very vexed man, with advertised issues, and even that mysterious thorn in his side. Paul was a thorny man ... we would have been equals.