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Old 09-04-2011, 01:59 PM   #11
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Default Re: Lee and the book of Job

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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah View Post
Job 7:17 - What is man, that thou shouldest magnify him? and that thou shouldest set thine heart upon him?

This is one of the questions that Job addresses to God. In Post #126 (all referenced posts are from the thread on Elvis has left the building). I lumped this verse into the first part of the question as “What is the point to life?” Later, in God’s answer, I put his answer into two parts. In part 1 I said that the answer would be that all the troubles and suffering in the book of Job were God laying the foundation in Job’s life, not annulling all the work he had done. In part 2 I said that the answer is that we were made in the image and likeness of God, the point of life is to express God.

So here is the section in Hebrews that quotes Job 7:17
2:5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
2:9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

Clearly, this verse is quoted in Hebrews as referring to Jesus. And, the reference is about how man doesn’t look like anything, he was made lower than the angels so that he could go through the suffering of death and taste death for every man, and that passing through that he was crowned with Glory and honor. This is also what I said the book of Job is about. The sufferings that Job passes through lay the foundation for his life, and for him to be a man in the image of God.

In Post #129, Awareness asks “still weak. Where is the man God is makin.” The man is here, referenced in Hebrews 2:5-9. The writer says clearly “we see Jesus” referring, in part to this reference in Job.

In Post #135 I said that Jesus is a man that meets this standard. In #136 I said Jesus is such a man.

In Post #139 OBW said “And this is what I find continually lacking in these kinds of arguments. The mere fact that you can discuss the attributes of Jesus in these terms does not make this book about it.”

In Post #145 OBW said “This book is the early discussion about the coexistence of God and evil. It is not a prophetic book about Jesus or the church.” Tell that to the writer of Hebrews.
Well okay bro Z. I see your point/s. Good work, but you are still stretching the book of Job into "the purpose of man is to express God," and that the book of Job is to build a man. That is clearly not what the author of Job intended.

The fact that the author of Hebrews used Job to make his point does not change the book of Job into pictures we wish to design upon it.

But good and harmless work bro Z. I knew you'd come thru eventually.
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