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Originally Posted by OBW
I will address your comments surrounding Job by speaking to this specific point.
We should have and arm and a voice like God? I hope you are saying that with a "yeah, right" sarcasm because otherwise you are suggesting that God said this because he intends that we should actually have such an arm or such a voice.
If that is what you are saying, then I must strongly disagree. God is making it clear that we are ignorant of the creation. That we are powerless. That we have no sound of authority. God did it his way. He did not take counsel from even one of us. (This despite Bill Cosby's Noah suggesting that God just send rain for 40 days and nights until the sewers back up rather than the ridiculously large number God originally said. "Right!!")
How anything transpires on the earth is not ours to make demands concerning. We did not create it. We did not ordain the laws under which things work. We didn't even get to make suggestions. God is not suggesting that we are in the process of getting there. We cannot demand that it all change because we have no say in it either way. On what basis can you read this any other way?
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Your question and the complete post is here, you asked on what basis can you read this any other way than the way you presented, which is that God is the all powerful creator and we know nothing and can do nothing.
How is that an answer to Job's question?
If that is in fact the Lord's answer, then what was the point of Job's life? Who and where is the man that will judge the wicked? What was Job's sin that God has dealt with him thus?
You are saying that God has answered Job's question with a non sequitor, and that everyone is happy with that.
My basis for understanding God is the context of everything God has said and done in the Bible. How is Genesis, which says "God created man in His image and after His likeness" not relevant here? Chapter 1 says "the Earth became waste and void", in the Prophets the Lord said "I didn't create the Earth waste and void". The point is very clear, you can't read Genesis without looking at the other books of the Bible. Every book is important in understanding the Bible.
How could the entire record of Jesus Christ not be relevant here? Clearly, if we are going to talk about a Man that God would boast of being upright, that surely would apply to Jesus. If we are going to talk about a man that was attacked by Satan unrighteously that would certainly apply to Jesus.
How can anyone say that these verses don't apply to Jesus?
Job 40:9 Hast thou an arm like God? or canst thou thunder with a voice like him?
40:10 Deck thyself now with majesty and excellency; and array thyself with glory and beauty.
40:11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him.
40:12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place.
40:13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
40:14 Then will I also confess unto thee that thine own right hand can save thee.
How is it that you can read the Bible and you don't see Jesus?
This whole "this is lee esque" is pathetic. The Bible talks about Jesus. That is not WL doctrine, that is fact.