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Originally Posted by awareness
Gen 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Religion has not only failed to change human nature. Religion has actually been used to commit atrocities against other humans. So any good it has done is a wash at best ....
Jesus came and went and human nature didn't change ... sorry to pop yer bubble ... if you had/have one.
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Using the same method of thinking I would say governments have done society NO good and has been used to commit atrocities among human beings.
We should have no governments because Communism, Capitalism, World Wars, have all been induced by tyrannical rule. Hitlers and his regime killed millions and millions of people so we should have no governments.
If I were Jewish and were persecuted by the Hitlers regime I would hate democracy because it also is another form of government. My experience with governments is that they do nothing but restrict your freedoms and persecute you.
I can apply that to method of thinking to anything.
Do not let YOUR experience define what is objectively true or not.
If you an atheist, do not let opinion get in the way of researching what is really true. Christopher Hitchens feels about religion exactly the same way if not more than you. Christopher hates religion because he believes it poisons everything. He actively debates well known theologians in attempt to set free the "shackles" that religious organizations have against people.
Why does he hate religion? He looks at the crusades, catholic molestation cases and the list can go on and on.
But he is forgetting one thing, the existence of God is not defined by people and is independent of religious actions. Just because a doctor kills doesnt mean medicine is murderous. When Bill Clinton committed adultery it doesn't mean that all Presidents are sex maniacs.
You cannot look at a subset of experiences and occurrences and apply it to the entire entity. You cannot win or lose this argument ever because it is circular. There will always be great examples of Christianity and horrible examples of Christianity. There will always be great examples of working governments and horribly corrupt ones. It does not mean that it does not work.
Look at the problem logically and without opinionated biases and only then will you start to see why Christianity has a world view that works.