[Thankful Jane]

Originally Posted by Shawn

I agree with you in that man had to change from his sinful position, but it was not we who changed, for we are still sinners after we receive the Lord, It was the Lord in His humanity that gave us the forgiviness of sins, that we can repent and become born again.

You’ve lost me here, Shawn. It was the Lord dying as a perfect man that made it possible for us to be forgiven by believing He died in our place. The moment we believe, we are forgiven.

I hope I am not misunderstanding you here. What I just read sounds like you are saying we had to receive the Lord before we could repent and become born again (see what I bolded that sounds this way). I hear the gospel the other way around. Believe and be saved. Surely I am misunderstanding, so maybe you can clarify this.

Originally Posted by Shawn

Yes, the Spirit could always give life, but it was not until the LAST ADAM that this life could be received by us.

This was because sin was separating us from a holy God. When the debt was paid, we were offered access to God by faith in Christ.

Originally Posted by Shawn

I am not an WL defender, but the simple explanation of the verse agrees with the thought that the Last Adam became a life giving spirit. your explanation of your perspective is technically right, but argues with the context of the verse. why argue with the word of God? Or, should we put a disclaimer at the end of the verse that this Spirit of course, was always life giving?

My explanation doesn’t argue with the context, nor with the word of God. The simple explanation of the verse according to the context is that Christ is a life-giving spirit, just as Adam was a living soul.

Shawn, we are discussing what Lee taught about this verse. He taught that “before Christ’s resurrection, there was not such a life-giving Spirit in the universe?” Do you agree with this statement?

Thankful Jane