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Originally Posted by ZNPaaneah
ZNP: Thankyou, I also consider this the best verse. ”Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.”
This verse could refer to anyone that has rule over you – a policeman, a teacher, an elder.
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Cross references for Hebrews 13:17 are
1 Corinthians 16:16
that you also be in subjection to such men and to everyone who helps in the work and labors.
Hebrews 13:7
Remember those who led you, who spoke the word of God to you; and considering the result of their conduct, imitate their faith.
Hebrews 13:24
Greet all of your leaders and all the saints. Those from Italy greet you.
I see from your examples your speaking on jurisdiction and limitations of the jurisidiction.
For example a policeman only has jurisdiction over the area he's designated to serve and cannot exceed that area. For example an uncle of mine once served law enforcement in Washington County, Oregon. His jurisdiction was limited to the county.
Same principal is in effect to elders of assemblies. Specifically the incident you refer to is a illustration of an elder overstepping his jurisdiction as an elder. Once Benson moved to Dallas to serve, he was no longer an elder for the Church in Houston.
Another example is the assembly I currently meet with. Elders from ERCC would not be recognized as being elders in the nearest local church.