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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane
Blue was written first, by Jane.
Black was written in response by ZNP.
Red is my current answer to ZNP’s black.
Jane post #20: Okay, ZNP. I've read your response several times and though it is very interesting, it doesn't answer my specific questions.
Your explanation seems to have moved away from what Terry asked ("What is the issue with encouraging ones to talk about their problems?") and even away from your response to Terry's question ("I think the problem with sisters opening up about their problems is obvious..."). You then switched horses from sisters talking about their own problems to sisters talking about their problems with PL. (I also asked for your source of information about sisters having problems with PL that they might talk about.)
ZNP post #25: I did not move away from those questions.
[COLOR=red][FONT=Verdana]Nevertheless, you did not answer my questions or Terry’s in a straightforward manner as one should do out of respect for another. Terry asked “what is the issue with encouraging ones to talk about their problems?”
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I was not aware that Terry directed that question to me, sorry. Let me answer this question first before responding to the rest of your red letter.
"What is the issue with encouraging ones to talk about their problems?" Since I have never made an issue of this, nor am I aware of anyone else who has made an issue of this, I am going to assume that the LRC is making an issue of this. 2nd, I have no context from which to work on this question so I will create one -- I will assume that the context is that people in a local church were encouraging others, through fellowship, perhaps in marriage counseling, or perhaps in shepherding new ones, or perhaps in home meetings to "talk about their problems" and that the elders or leading ones with the LRC had an issue with this. (Based on these assumptions and hypothetical context I will respond, if my assumptions or context are wrong please correct me.)
First I find it absurd to think that you could do marriage counseling without "encouraging ones to talk about their problems" (my limited experience is that couples seek counseling because they have problems), likewise with shepherding new ones, or even in a home meeting. Suppose someone in a home meeting started to share a testimony and then stopped saying "I don't know if you really want to hear about my problems" and then you responded by encouraging them to speak. So as I thought about many different scenarios where one christian might "encourage ones to talk about their problems" it just seemed more and more absurd for anyone to have an issue with this. My feeling was that this was so idiotic that either I didn't understand the question (my assumptions or context were wrong) or else this was "obviously a case of LRC leaders creating bogus teachings in an attempt to control saints".
I thought this is what I said in my first post and that this did respond to the question at hand, but apparently it was not understood that way. So in my second post I tried to make it even more clear, and this time I figured the question probably had something to do with this thread. So I thought about the story in Houston and thought maybe he is referring to that story about "the sister's rebellion" so I used that in my examples, hence my highly offensive use of the term "sisters".