[ZNPaaneah]

I first used the term "in the loop" according to its meaning, in the context that sisters fellowship, especially on the phone from one locality to another, would be "out of the loop" of the elders. The term "in the loop" was put into quotation marks because I was quoting Jane's use of the word. She argued that she and other sisters were submissive to the elders in the context of this "in the loop". My entire post pointed out that the teaching that you must be submissive to the elders is an erroneous teaching. There is a NT verse that asks saints to submit themselves to elders under the presumption that they are watching for your souls. There is no teaching whatsoever that saints must have all of their fellowship approved by the elders and under the authority of the elders. That is the bogus teaching I was referring to and was stated over and over again in my post. What is the NT basis for the control that the elders want to have over all of the saints fellowship and ministry? I find no NT basis for it and feel it is the outgrowth of an attempt to do damage control on the sins of WL's kids being exposed.