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Old 07-27-2008, 11:48 PM   #48
Paul Miletus
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Originally Posted by Thankful Jane View Post
I like this statement KSA. Here are my thoughts on this.

I think this is what the scripture shows and it fits with the whole context of I Cor. 15. He was raised a spiritual body. I find the following verses very interesting:

Luk 24:37-39 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit. And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

In essence he was assuring them he had not become a spirit!

Lee taught over and over again that the last Adam became the life-giving Spirit, but Jesus didn't say this.

It was the perfect opportunity. Why didn't he tell the disciples, "Yes, you are seeing a spirit. That is because I have become the Life-giving Spirit." ? Instead he proved to them that he was not a spirit but was still flesh and bones, a spiritual body.

This was the clencher for me, that in I Cor. 15 Paul was talking about what was animating Christ, as you said. Adam is animated (alive) by blood. Christ in resurrection is "flesh and bones" ("blood" not mentioned) and animated (alive) by the Spirit.

I also see a strong implication in I Cor. 15 of something else. The first Adam was a living soul, and, clearly, like him we all are living souls. The Bible says that when we see the Lord, the second man, as He is, we will be like Him. By following through with the parallel Paul was making, couldn't he have been showing that in resurrection we too will have flesh and bones and be animated (alive) by the Spirit?

Thankful Jane
I believe it is far beyond with our imagination that in the Lord Jesus Christ resurrection he was being animated by the Spirit. This kind of concept is totally contradicting the very Scripture as shown below:

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John 20
Jesus Appears to His Disciples
19On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 20After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord.
21Again Jesus said, "Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you." 22And with that he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."
The Scriptures tell us clearly that the Lord Jesus Christ is BOTH Man and God (Spirit). As a Man, "he showed them his hands and side" and the disciples "saw the Lord". As God (Spirit), He was able to be with the disciples though the doors were locked where they were staying. He became omnipresent. In addition, as God (Spirit) "he breathed on them and said, "Receive the Holy Spirit"."

This series of event in John 20 does not convince me that the Lord Jesus Christ was being animated by the Spirit as suggested by other posters. In fact, John 20 was the fulfillment of the Lord Jesus Christ earlier statements in the following scriptures:

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John 14
16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
The Lord Jesus Christ was able to breathe on the disciples and saying "Receive the Holy Spirit" because the "another Counselor" mentioned in John 14:16 is He Himself as "the Spirit of truth". Notice verse 17 that "The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him." In addition, the Lord Jesus said to the disciples "But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you." How can the disciples know "him" ("another Counselor") if at that time the Lord Jesus Christ was about to ask the Father to send "the Spirit of truth". The key words is "But you know him, for he lives with you." Who lives with the disciples but no other than the Lord Jesus Christ. At that time, the Lord Jesus Christ was "Immanuel" (God is with us); but after the death and resurrection of the Lord Jesus He became a life-giving Spirit in order for him to be IN us. This is the very reason why the Lord Jesus Christ said "and will be in you" (future tense) which was fulfilled in John 20:22.

Look! The Lord Jesus Christ has even affirmed to the disciples in verse 18 that "I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you." The "another Comforter" is no other than the Lord Jesus Christ Himself!

Therefore, 1Corinthians 15:45 "the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit" is not an animation of the Lord Jesus Christ by the Spirit, but rather the Lord Jesus Christ is the real ALL-INCLUSIVE SPIRIT! The last Adam became a life-giving Spirit! Hallelujah! Amen.
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