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Originally Posted by David
Col 3.11 says Jesus is us! We are the branches and he is the vine; we can't do anything without him.
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That is a simplistic error in grammar. You are asserting that because a metaphor of a vine and its branches exists that every aspect that can be milked from the metaphor must be true. Since a vine and its branches are one thing (entirely one thing) then you assert that this metaphor must mean that man is entirely the same thing as God.
But it is talking about a source of supply, not of identity. A branch receives its nutrition from the trunk (the vine). If you cut it off, it cannot do anything but die. This is classic over-application of a metaphor.
Neither Col 3:11 or any other verse that you want to bring out says that Jesus is us. Of course Lee said that it was "simply" so. And we all bought it, hook, line and sinker. But that is because we accepted that he was the ultimate authority and we did not even use our brains to see the error in his teaching.