[aron]

Another point, on Number Five, about the Gospel Parables. There is the servant (Luke 16)who is found lacking and is expelled from his service. So he goes to the Master's creditors and gets them to lessen what they owe.

At the end of the parable, the steward is still out of a job, and the creditors still owe. Now, how does that make sense to you, if they are going into eternal torment? If you owe eighty bushels of wheat or forty, and you go into eternal damnation, or torment, or perdition, or whatever you call it, it is irrelevant.

But if your discipline/payback is finite, then owing forty is a great improvement on eighty.

My point is that if we create these "all or nothing" models it discourages people from even trying. I have even heard people say, "I am not going to make it". And they give up.

Plus, this thinking doesn't make sense according to the Gospel Parables of Jesus.